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The budget breakdown of a 43-year-old Software Engineer on a $12K monthly salary in MinneapolisFeatured

The Budget Breakdown aims to broaden the conversation on money and offer insights into various approaches to spending, saving, and investing.

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💰 Income (shared with dependants)

Monthly Gross Income: $12,000

Monthly Net Income: $9,800

Dependants: 4 children, 1 partner, 2 fur babies

🏡 Monthly Fixed Expenses (shared with dependants)

Mortgage: $1,500

Utilities (Electricity, Water, Gas): ~ $250 (more in winter and summer, much less in spring and fall)

Internet: $45

Car fuel: ~ $250

Life Insurance: ~$50

Car Insurance: $84

Health Insurance: via employer - deducted from paycheck

Partner’s student loans: $200

Subscriptions: $35 (annual professional memberships for self and partner)

Cell phone: $100

Charitable donations: $50

🛒 Monthly Variable Expenses (shared with dependants)

Groceries: ~$700

Eating Out (Restaurants, Bars): ~$200

Entertainment (Movies, Events, Hobbies): $50 (mostly only birthdays, anniversaries, friend gifts, etc.)

Clothing: $85 (I wear super old crap. :( But…for the kids→ tons of money!)

Personal Care: $10

Travel: $800/month (based on 2-3 family vacations/year + 1 personal trip)

Career Coaching (current, but not ongoing): $12/month

Holidays & gifts: $45

Family photography: $20

Monthly date night: $200 (it’s $100+ just to have the babysitter!)

💸 Monthly Savings and Investments (shared with dependants)

Retirement Savings:

$1,167 (Roth IRA for both)

$1,900 (deducted automatically for 401K)

Investments: $300 (IRA)

College savings accounts: $200

🎁 Monthly miscellaneous (shared with dependants)

Gifts and Donations: $150

Daycare: $550

Summer Camps: $450

Enrichment activities/sports lessons: $100

Music lessons: $240

Pet Insurance: $75

Pet food vet, etc.: $70

Health and Wellness: $60 (hard to predict copays as they can vary wildly. We can drop $800 on glasses for all who need them in one year, but not the next.)

AAA membership: $8

Credit card fees: $16

⚖️ Final balance

Total income: $9,300

Total expenses: $10,738

Final balance: -$172 (likely due to the unexpectedly high cost of summer childcare this year. Working to rebalance this.)

💭 Money Reflections

1. How much does tracking your personal finances influence your spending, saving, and investing habits?

Probably not as much as it should, looking at that negative balance. Now, the side work I do sometimes pays more, sometimes less, and so is quite hard to predict or adjust down to the “small” monthly level budget.

2. Is there anything you wish you would spend less money on?

I wish we spent less on food. We sometimes have food waste as well, which is frustrating. I’d like to spend less on charity, but feel a moral obligation to “give back” to organizations working toward equity, especially given my own relative privilege in the USA. Childcare and summer camps are so wildly expensive, even though we use the “cheap” (almost bad) options. I don't know how to spend less there. It's a totally broken system.

3. What do you consider important to spend money on?

I feel like the vacation costs are higher than I realized, but I also value travel and ensuring that my kids see and know my side of the family including my elderly dad. This necessitates some travel for us, which is pretty expensive as a large family. I also had a lot of student debt to repay and want to be able to help my kids defray the cost of college by having some savings in a 529 plan for them.

4. Do you have any short-term or long-term financial goals?

To retire early-ish, if possible, since I don't expect to have a particularly long life (genetic factors). I would like to enjoy some non-working time with my kids, if possible. I also want to save enough so that they have what they need in the future if I'm not working or have passed on. Short-term: try to figure out HOW to figure out a plan for the above. Also to figure out how to move away from paying for managed accounts and begin owning my own financial journey again.

5. What is your approach to saving/investing? Are there any specific strategies you follow?

My only basic goals are to max out my 401K contribution and Roth IRA each year, and as early in the year as possible. I also max out my spouse's Roth since they do primarily Childcare in the home along with a little part-time work. I keep our emergency fund in a HYSA, and try to put any “extra” money towards 529s or the mortgage. Since I'm using managed accounts, I don't have a specific strategy for the investments themselves and I rely on target-date funds for non-managed accounts like the 529s. But I want to stop using managed accounts, so learning and creating my own investment strategy is a top priority for me.

6. What was your relationship with money like growing up? Did you talk about it with your parents/caregivers?

Money was mostly a source of stress in our house. There was clearly never enough (we were a large family that, for many years, also included a disabled grandparent who lived with us). I remember the stress finances caused for my father in particular and that it was a volatile topic at times. The only times we “discussed” money as a family was when my dad would have to tell us that we couldn't do something or that we would find “other ways to celebrate” upcoming birthdays or Christmases besides gifts. It was clear that those conversations were hard for him, so we didn't dig deep about it but just accepted it. We rarely ever had what we “wanted” and many times even struggled to have what we actually needed. I grew up with hand-me-downs and rejected toys, but honestly didn't think too badly about it at the time. It was just our reality.

7. Did you receive any formal or informal financial education growing up? If yes, where did you learn to manage your personal finances?

None at all when growing up beyond maybe figuring out on my own whether to save a small money gift I received vs spend it immediately. I Never had an allowance or much earned income as a minor. I didn't learn anything about investing and real savings until my 30s.

8. Do you feel well-versed in personal finance? What resources have you used to educate yourself?

Not at all. I fell really ignorant and like it's all a black box of mystery, especially when working with an FA. That being said, I've read a lot of blogs and articles online as well as “classic” finance books. So I realize that I have a handle on the basics, at least, but I still feel so deficient.

💡 Ask the community

I feel frustrated that so much of financial advice geared towards women is far too basic, focuses only on making a budget (ex “have you considered doing your nails at home yourself to save money?”), or is pandering or plain rude (ex “stop buying all those lattes, ladies”). I know how to budget (ignore that temporary negative number above, please!). And I know how to save. I also know that some people - especially privileged white men - seem to be making more money WITH their money than I am able to with mine, and I don't know why. Is it just that they have more income overall perhaps due to pay gaps? Or that they don't do the caretaking, gift-giving, charitable stuff that many women feel an obligation to do in order to make the world a better, kinder place? Or some other special intel they have that I don't?

Personally, I value being able to talk to real people about their money and investing, but I haven't been able to find a group like that. I know some male “buddies” with a “casual” investment club, but they didn't feel “comfortable” adding me in. I've tried to find other females but they often tell me their male partner handles it or that they have an advisor who does everything. I feel really isolated without a group of my own. Do others feel this way?

My current financial quandary is trying to figure out whether I can retire at all early (even just at 55 or so). How do I know if I have enough money for that - or even how to make a plan for that possibility - especially when I'm the primary income for my family, have young children, and our health insurance is through my employer?

Hello from another woman in the Twin Cities. I have been wondering the same thing about retiring a little early. I will have paid off my mortgage at 55 so I'm wondering if I could either retire then, retire at 60, or downgrade to a less demanding job - either go part-time at my current job or get a job that covers health insurance and 401k contribs at 55? 53? and then retire at 60? Presumably, someone out there has a complicated excel spreadsheet that works out incomes and outflows with all the tune-able bells and whistles one would need to factor in personal differences such as date of mortgage payoff, whether or not there are college and grad school costs for kids, whether or not there's another income stream, and so forth. In a total side note I'm also wondering how you have so few subscription fees. Just professional memberships? No Spotify, Google or Apple storage, YouTube/netflix/hulu? And what internet provider around here is only $45 a month? I pay $76 for xfinity but would switch if I could get a better deal (note: USI is not available where I live).
Hello! My company Predictabill.com helps on the health insurance front ā€” we can show you a financial glide path from retiring early until turning 65 (when you become eligible for Medicare). Realize it doesn't solve the "complicated Excel spreadsheet" for your mortgage and the rest of your life, but you can sign up for a free consult at calendly.com/predictabill/help if you are curious on this health insurance piece.Replying to you @LauraNoren, but it could also address the question in @Bobbie84's post.
Hello! Yeah, we have made the conscious decision not to have any entertainment subscriptions - both for us and for our kids. We know that they already get plenty of screen time access outside of our house, and so we never wanted the cost or the hassle of having them. So, you are correct...we just have none of it (beyond cell phone plans and internet). We use our public library and public radio stations heavily, and we have movie night once/week as a family with an old DVD player an a small screen TV. I know this wouldn't work for all families, but works well for us so far. Our internet is an older plan-for-life from CenturyLink. I'm pretty sure CenturyLink regrets ever offering this to customers, and they give us terrible customer service (likely on purpose?) that always encourages upgrading, but we have resisted! And, it has been 100% worth it for the cost savings. And...since we aren't streaming TV or movies or anything, the "basic" plan works really great for us.
Career coaching for 12 a month - how?!?
It's for someone who is getting in their hours towards full licensure. We agreed to a super discounted rate combined with a barter for services I could provide. It's only for 4 sessions spread over one year (quarterly check-in), plus I agree to give "meta" feedback outside of the session to help the person improve. That's also why it says it isn't going to be an ongoing cost. I wouldn't do career counseling outside of this unique arrangement, most likely. [To be clear, it isn't a monthly expense, but a per-meeting payment that was divided into monthly for the way this template was organized. Hope that makes sense.]
How is your AAA only $8 per month? Is it car insurance? I have AAA for my car insurance and pay about $108 per month. As for groceries, can you go to Costco and buy some items in bulk? Or plan ahead every Sunday and know exactly what your family will cook that week to minimize on the waste? I cook a lot of recipes from this blog (wellplated.com) and a lot of the recipes are very affordable (AND SO DELICIOUS)! :) I highly recommend Ramit Sethi's book, "I Will Teach You To Be Rich." I learned a lot from it. Can you cut the donations in half or maybe donate every other month or every quarter? Thank you so much for being so open about your finances! I hope this community can help you! ā¤ļø
Oooh, I totally missed car insurance. :'(Just edited above to correct that, but happily we have a really good rate, so not a massive difference.$8 was for actual AAA membership for car trouble help, trip planning help, etc. Just added insurance in for 84/month.Thanks for noticing that!I'll check out that book recommendation - thank you.The grocery and meal planning piece is slightly complicated in that I have given that over to my partner to fully manage. There was a point when I was working full time, working part time (side gigs), doing the majority of cleaning and childcare, as well as meal planning, shopping, and execution. (And this is while my partner was full SAH) For my own well-being (because, I was really to the point of falling apart), we agreed that I would "full stop" some things - and food/meals was the largest chunk of that. So, while I hate throwing out the melon that I know was purchased with good intentions and then slowly rotted in the back of the fridge....it's a compromise toward better relationship health and mental health. (Nonetheless, we do talk about it, and are trying to reduce that kind of waste while still not forcing me back into managing it - so your suggestion is a good one, but with some nuance/adaptation needed on our end.)
I totally understand that you had to fully stop some of the responsibilities! Thanks for sharing everything above.
I really appreciate your transparency! You might already know of the following resources, but I have found all of these helpful:Girls That Invest -- (Tik Tok/Podcast) Breaks down specific investment advice in a digestible way.Nerdwallet -- (Website/Podcast) There is a retirement calculator and many other tools that I have found helpful.FI/RE and fatFIRE (subreddits) -- I found these helpful because it allows me to see where other people are in their financial journey (mileage may vary).Also, I have not read the book The Psychology of Money, but I intend to ASAP. My spouse and I both have a lot of money trauma (mine related to a parent's health expenses and hers related to a parent's addiction), and I think it's something that could really help demystify our relationships with money.
I was not familiar with these at all, so thank you! I will check them out. And, if you recommend "The Psychology of Money" after reading it, I'd love to know that. I've heard the title and the history, but haven't read it yet myself.
I will reply to this post when I read it and let you know!
All great info! I would add "The Money with Katie Show" podcast.
Thank you for sharing! You really seem to be prioritizing your savings and contributing towards those accounts - kudos!Having been in one of these 'investment clubs', I didn't have a great experience. The group was welcoming (as it was a mix of men and women) but the investments didn't do well for me. I find that casual investment clubs tend to fluctuate with hype (when the market is way up, everyone gets excited and wants to start an investment club!) and a lot of the investment recommendations followed this hype.I'd like to improve my investing strategy as well, but so far what has worked for me has been:1. consistent contributions / not trying to time the market2. investing in diversified funds and ETFsThis won't have the big payoffs that picking a stock that explodes in value (which I think is often a lot of luck) will, but it does help me put my money to work and ensure it is growing in value over the long run.
Ahh, good perspective. Thanks for sharing your experience!What I long for is actually what is happening naturally with this post (I'm glad I did it!), which is just people sharing openly about their own journey and what they've tried, learned, etc. So, less "hot stock tip" and more "here's what I'm doing/trying/learning." It's invaluable information and data, and I'm grateful for it!
Thank you so much for sharing all of this! If you have the time and inclination to learn, I second the suggestion for Ramit Sethi's I Will Teach You To Be Rich, but would also add Your Money or Your Life. To directly answer your early retirement question, the best strategies for funding early retirement (and making it work creatively) I've found are in Quit Like A Millionaire. It dragged at some points, but it goes into the nuts and bolts of funding early retirement. Girls That Invest also gives a really interesting format of some different ways you can get into investing.What all of these, along with my favorite finance blogger/podcaster Money With Katie (Girls That Invest is also pretty cool), will tell you is that index funds beat managed funds 95% of the time. There's a famous story of Warren Buffet betting a hedge fund manager a $1M donation to charity that index funds would beat the returns on the managed fund after 10 years. The hedge fund manager made the donation after 7 :) (story here: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/030916/buffetts-bet-hedge-funds-year-eight-brka-brkb.asp ). My personal strategy is to invest through Vanguard in index funds, starting with VFIAX, that have less than a .1% management fee, low barriers to entry ($3k minimum), and show >7% returns for more than 15 years.Happy to talk about it more via DM! I only have two friends and a partner I talk to about investing, which does feel SUPER isolating, and welcome open conversations about money.
Awesome advice. Thank you! I will definitely reach out via DM!
I'd love to chat with you as well. Maybe we can just share tips or just keep the conversation open so that we don't feel so isolated when it comes to investing/ money. I will DM you :)
Thank you for sharing your budget breakdown! It looks like you're doing a great job really trying to save and manage a large household! As someone who is married to a super-saver, I would say that the clearest place for you to cut is on the travel. We only started traveling recently as our finances got into a better place, and I would say that travel is mostly a luxury. We also usually only traveled before to see family, so then we would stay with them, because otherwise the expense of nightly stays somewhere is really expensive, and then you usually have to pay to eat out, which costs a lot more than cooking. I completely agree with you that it's important for your kids to have the experience and also to see family, but I would consider reducing the number of trips you take and also cutting out the solo trip or reducing it to every other year.